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pauliorra said:The point is that lucifer, in their eyes, is good. It is not the lucifer described in the Bible. The Bible would be considered the “official story” and lucifer would be the giver of light. I am not this anon BTW
Yeah, that much I understand. The problem I have with that is that even if THEY consider Lucipher good, he’s still not the one who set up the rules of the universe(by the biblical definitions of God and Lucipher). God already decided what was light and dark, and what was good and evil. Lucipher doesn’t get a vote on it, as he can only be a rebel in opposition to the sole source of objective morality that exists. Human beings don’t get a vote about it either… so if they believe God actually created the universe, then worship of Lucipher makes no sense.
I.E., they’re delusional and/or theologically ignorant. Or, that if they think the world was created by rival deities, they’re describing polytheism, not God or Lucipher.
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Anonymous asked: What are your thoughts on Luciferianism (it's different from Satanism)?
I’m not as familiar with that one, but it seems similar to gnosticism. Based on what little I know of it, I have two thoughts:
1. If someone follows it but doesn’t believe in Lucifer as an actual being, why not just call oneself pagan/gnostic?
2. If someone does believe in Lucifer as an actual being, as described in the bible, then they’re delusional for wanting to worship him. If they believe the bible is wrong about Lucipher(but that God is still the creator of the universe), then worship of him is an exercise in stupidity or futility. If they believe that God and Lucipher are equal deities with opposing viewpoints, well… they’re no longer describing biblical Christianity. So find a polytheistic religion instead.
Either way, I don’t understand the point to it.
A while back, I became convicted that the hyper-individualistic programming of our culture isn’t compatible with Christianity. I matter as an individual, but I am also part of a larger body. My life is not for me alone, but for the good of God’s Kingdom – a Kingdom which encompasses all of creation. If I see my life and my faith as primarily about me, I am very much mistaken. What I came to realize is that countering hyper-individualism isn’t just a matter of prioritizing social justice or even church fellowship. Rather hyper-individualism hides very deep truths about our identities, our purpose and even the meaning of our lives from us. Because the truth is that my life isn’t about “me”. My life and your life and the life of every other human on the planet is about “we”.
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Anonymous asked: Do athiests lack morals?
Of course not. Atheists are humans, and as varied as any other group of humans. Those who adopt -philosophies- that lack any structured sense of morality may still be wonderful people, just as a Christian may be a horrible person.
I understand you guys are upset about this so called war on Christmas but forcing someone to say “Merry Christmas” when they truly don’t care about Christmas or whether you are merry or not makes the saying lose its value and overall lessens Christmas. I will admit, as an atheist, I love saying Merry Christmas because it takes away from the true meaning of the so called brith of Jesus. If I an atheist can say it and Muslims and Jew are being forced to say it to then Christmas becomes synonymous with getting gifts and putting up trees. It has now become a capitalist consumeristic holiday that everyone can partake it. Many get upset when cities call there tree a holiday tree opposed to a Christmas tree, when Christ and tress have no link to each other. I could go on and tell you about the pagan roots Christmas comes from but I’m sure you heard that before. Nonetheless less if on Dec. 25th a couple years in the future we have a nationalized tv show were kids from different areas kill each other for food and only one survives like in The Hunger Games. Would you be upset that we called it the Holiday games instead of the Christmas games? Basically if you are a true Christian, it shouldn’t matter what you call it or how you celebrate it just hold your belief to be true.& Spirituality
Not all Christians are upset with the war on Christmas. Personally, I hope Christmas loses the war and we can call this time of year “Merry consumerist capitalism and corporate greed”, even if that’s not quite as memorable as ‘Christmas.’
But I do think the question of whether it cheapens the meaning of the holiday by having employees forced to say Merry Christmas is interesting. If the employees are Christian, and are equally bound by this requirement, then it might well be a form of religious hypocrisy to be prostrating their faith in return for monetary compensation. If they’re not Christian, then I don’t think them saying the words is the biggest threat to the religious part of the holiday: That they’re being paid to pretend to have a faith/care about the religious holiday is a far more devastating blow to Christ’s birth than simply miming words a corporate shill decided could increase profit. At least the Non-Christian has an excuse, though. Basically, I believe that such things could not possibly cheapen the meaning of Christmas at this point. Too much else already has, like the ‘War on Christmas.’
Thank God I don’t work in retail. I intend to celebrate Christmas in sullen, cynical reflection on what it means to be an American without actually stepping into a store or buying presents… same as every year. Though I’ll also go to church.
The right’s contretemps with Pope Francis has brought out into the open what is rarely mentioned in polite company: most visible and famous Catholics who fight on behalf of Catholic causes in America focus almost exclusively on sexual issues (as Pope Francis himself seemed to be pointing out, and chastising, in his America interview), but have been generally silent regarding a century-old tradition of Catholic social and economic teaching. The meritocracy and economic elite have been a main beneficiary of this silence: those most serious about Catholicism—and thus who could have brought to bear a powerful tradition of thinking about economics that avoids both the radical individualistic presuppositions of capitalism as well as the collectivism of socialism—have spent their energies fighting the sexual/culture wars, even while Republican-Democratic ruling machine has merely changed driver seat in a limousine that delivers them to ever-more exclusive zip codes.
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Anonymous asked: Satanism is an antidote to morality? Why?
It is a religion/philosophy that teaches the pursuit of desire above all else, with little regard to how one’s actions might affect those around them, and even less for how desire may harm oneself. It is appealing for the same reason Ayn Rand’s philosophy was appealing to people: It requires no discipline, no absolute sense of right or wrong, no particular moral reasoning of its adherents, and no concern for the less fortunate. It names man as his own God, and places the individual as superior to all else. Anton LaVey(who was influenced by Objectivism) and his cult was largely atheistic, so the primary intention seems to have been to loudly reject all other beliefs and ideas while naming one’s own as absolute.
Which does describe quite a few internet atheists, but not morality. Desire without self-control is dangerous, and saying that everyone’s view of morality is ‘equally valid’ is identical to saying it doesn’t exist at all. It’s a simplistic ideology that appeals to people who don’t like philosophy or thinking too deeply.
…Hope that answers your question!
The Perennial Tradition, which most world religions have stated in different ways, somehow says that a person’s final end is union with God and all things. This is the simple goal of our existence. If your religion is not helping you to do that, then you’d better get a new religion. Most people, particularly young people, have no knowledge that the purpose of their life is union with Divine Reality. They have been told that the purpose of life is to get a degree and make money and have kids and die. That’s the narrowed-down secular understanding of reality, which is de facto followed by many Christians. Most are no longer connected to the perennial philosophy, and just waste time fighting their own religion. This is not wisdom at all—it is low-level survival. We’re now living in a largely survival mode in most Western cultures. No wonder so many of our kids turn to drugs, drink, and promiscuous sex, because there’s nothing else that’s very exciting or very true.
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