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14th February 2012

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On Morality: where it comes from. →

vernardm:

I’m going to make a short and quick response and less wordplay on the quote at the bottom.

Your Question: “Where does Morality Come from?

As much as I can simply say that “it comes from the Human mind”, I doubt that answer will please you because you will need a more complex explanation for that.

But that is basically it. It comes from our thinking. Our compassion, our hatred, sadness, our guilt and conscience, affecting our experiences with other people and how our actions affect them, it’s all an activity of a complex brain activity.

Human beings’ adaptive trait is a highly developed brain, sentience like no other with capable of complex thoughts—in place of sharp claws, huge fangs, thick fur, or an incredible 360-degree eyesight.  It’s our biggest adaptive trait.

This question is just as trivial as asking, “Where does Language come from? Why do humans have a need for a complex communication?

Think about that, and you will spend less time imagining if there’s a Supernatural deity who holds a bucket of Morality showering upon us.  Because if that’s the case, I can’t see why majority of god-worshiping people can be so cruel to their own species (and others).  Religion or god did not provided morality.  Morality was thought-up by humans, and made sets of it to invent religion, and invented a god so it can stay in place.

liberalchristian:

Cells and atoms are the building blocks to form living creatures and elements found in nature. The physical laws have an explicit function to allow for motion, gravity, chemical processes, etc. What I don’t see is how morality has any essential function in the universe, outside of it’s non-obvious effects on human behavior. I think it’s an extraordinary claim to say that morals are a free-standing force in the world, independent of human thought and yet wholly affecting human thought, originating out of a presumably material world with no supernatural agents. It’s even more extraordinary to believe that we can categorize and define it without providing justification for how or even if it exists. Psychology and sociology don’t make those claims.

No, actually, that sounds like a completely valid answer. But it’s not an objective one. My argument is not that atheists are immoral, or that morality must only come from God. It is that one idea does not make logical sense to me when paired with another one… nothing more.

Source: settingmycoldheartfree

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